[antir-heralds] Order of the Red Bear

[Deloris Booker]

Great name for an order.

Did there not used to be and "order of the great red bear" or  
something extremely similar down in the Shires in the Regina area?  I  
recall going to camping events down there years ago that featured  
such a thing.

Aldreada
On 3-Apr-07, at 5:52 PM, Wenyeva atte Grene wrote:

> At 4:33 PM -0700 4/3/07, Ursula Whitcher wrote:
>> Suzanne Jacquest wrote:
>>>  Me again! Keeping you busy... lol
>>>
>>>  Could this be conflict checked please? I found no conflicts. Also,
>>>  could someone with OED access check the spellings please?
>>>
>>>  Order of the Red Bear
>>
>> There's a 1398 citation of the modern spelling of bear in the OED,
>> referring to the constellation, but I'm not sure it's the most  
>> usual for
>> our period.  There's a 1596 example of "beare" from Shakespeare;
>> browsing through, that looks like the most usual sixteenth-century  
>> spelling.
>
> See also
> http://ets.umdl.umich.edu/cgi/m/mec/med-idx? 
> type=id&id=MED4138&egs=all&egdisplay=open
> for Middle English spellings galore. "Rede Bere" is a pretty good
> Middle English form.
>
> http://ets.umdl.umich.edu/cgi/m/mec/med-idx? 
> type=byte&byte=131465007&egdisplay=open&egs=131541031
> is the entry page for the ME forms of "order" -- "ordre" seems most
> common, but "order" is there as well, among other spellings.
>
> So Ordre of the Rede Bere is a fine Middle English version of the
> order name, if that is what you are looking for.
>
> W
> (Not to go all gung-ho about using the MED for everything, but it's
> free, and every form in it is automatically period, and often you
> find useful stuff there that isn't in the OED.)
>
> -- 
> \-\ Wenyeva atte grene * "In tenebris lux"
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