[antir-heralds] lol answer to Tir Righ Re: Fwd: AquaterraSpringIthra

Tue Apr 17 22:14:20 EDT 2007

My apologies if the numbers given were unclear. The four in 52 - 4 = 48 is
for the 4 weekends that are conflict free for Crown Tournaments and
Coronations. That doesn't count any other possible conflict free weekend. 8
was the number of An Tirian Kingdom events total, but not necessarily the
conflict free weekends.

In 2006, both scheduled Crown Councils and Kingdom Bardic were on conflict
weekends. Kingdom A&S was conflict free, so you can move that 4 to a 5, if
you wish.

Last year, there were 4 events in An Tir scheduled on US Thanksgiving
weekend, one of which was in the US. There were 6 events scheduled on
Canadian Thanksgiving weekend, two of which were in Canada.

False Isle held a Winter Solstace on December 23rd and Lionsdale had a New
Years Masque on December 31st.

- Quentin Silver Yale

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From: Sablerose [mailto:tayla at sablerose.net] 
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To: Quentin Martel; antir-heralds at antir.sca.org
Subject: Re: [antir-heralds] lol answer to Tir Righ Re: Fwd:
AquaterraSpringIthra

Quentin's makes several good points, but I would suggest that there are even
fewer weekends available than that.

First, 8 from 52 is 44, not 48 :>

Additionally, very few branches are going to hold events the weekend of
Thanksgiving(I count one weekend for this even though there are different
dates for the US and Canada), Christmas or New Years.  By law we have to
have approval to hold an event opposite An Tir/West war.  Large branches are

unlikely to go up against Pennsic or Estrella.     Last time I did the math,

I came up with about 38 viable event weekends a year.   This doesn't even 
factor in the Principality events or what I would call Kingdom Level events
like Ursalmas, Egils, Sport of Kings or Autumn War.

During the camping season the numbers are much worse.  From May 1st to
October 1st there are 21 or 22 weekends depending on the year.  The Kingdom
claims 4, or now 5 with Bardic.  Pennsic takes another 2.  That leaves 14 or
15 weekends.  There are 18 branches in Western Washington alone.

There are a variety of solutions that are being bandied about, but no one is
a silver bullet.

Tayla of Winds
Stat Geek and Madrone Seneschal

----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Martel" <quentin at shittimwoode.org>
To: <antir-heralds at antir.sca.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: [antir-heralds] lol answer to Tir Righ Re: Fwd: 
AquaterraSpringIthra

>
> Your'e right, Johann, but it is frustrating.
>
> The math is brutal on events nowadays. With 79 branches (not counting the
> Principalities or An Tir itself), that's roughly 158 events that need to 
> fit
> into the calendar. Some branches have more events, some have the required
> one.
>
> There are 52 weekends a year. 4 of them are reserved for Crown events. 
> Lets
> ignore the Principalities reserving weekends, interkingdom wars, and 
> special
> events all of which make the scheduling of events more difficult. 158/48 =
> 3.3 events per weekend year round.
>
> Egads!
>
> But it's much worse than that in reality. Checking the An Tir calendar and
> ignoring canceled events and non An Tir events, there were a whopping 248
> events in 2006! Knocking off the 8 An Tir events listed as Kingdom events
> (two Crown Tournaments, two Coronations, Kingdom A&S, two Crown Councils,
> and Kingdom Bardic) leaves us with 240 events and 48 weekends. 240/48 = 5.
>
> Frustrating? Yes. Solvable? Anything that can help is more than welcome!
>
> - Quentin Silver Yale
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: antir-heralds-bounces at antir.sca.org
> [mailto:antir-heralds-bounces at antir.sca.org] On Behalf Of j. d s.
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 5:41 AM
> To: jharcus at prcn.org
> Cc: antir-heralds at antir.sca.org
> Subject: [antir-heralds] lol answer to Tir Righ Re: Fwd: Aquaterra
> SpringIthra
>
> perhaps some one in the fair principality of Tir Righ  said :
> "we don't need no stinkin heralds"or maybe "heavy fighting is what the SCA
> is all about "
>
> serious answer we are just too big an area not to conflict if we are to
> maintain the 2? required events per year per branch
>
> in service and whimsy
> Johann
> not a heavy fighter and not a heavy herald
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:25:15 -0700 Judy Harcus <jharcus at prcn.org> writes:
>> Gee - what do people have against those of us in Tir Righ.  First the
>>
>> Heraldic Symposium is on the weekend of Tir Righ's Coronet and now an
>> Ithra on Tir Righ's Investiture weekend - and both nice and close!
>> ;-(
>>
>> Alicia
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> Lisa Mohr wrote:
>> > >Subject: Aquaterra Spring Ithra
>> >Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:22:42 +0000
>> >
>> >    Greetings!
>> >  Please feel free to forward this with wild abandon:)
>> >
>> >  The Barony of Aquaterra is hosting a Spring Ithra at Everett
>> Community College on May 26th and 27th. There will be several lovely
>> classes available for core Ithra credit, as well as some fabulous
>> electives you won't want to miss. Come join the fun!
>> >
> _______________________________________________

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