[antir-heralds] Arms and name CC: Osogorow the Dredful

Ursula Georges ursula at math.washington.edu
Sun Dec 9 15:07:47 EST 2007


> Torches are cross-referenced from Flame in the index.  The PicDic
> states that flames are a period charge, it does not say if torches
> are. The PidDic images of torches show a lot of torch and a little
> flame, but I'm going to check Laurel precedent and see.  I think this
> is a conflict with one CD between the two types of charge.
> Laurel has not ruled on how much difference there is between a torch
> and a flame.  Now, if we can prove that a torch is a period charge, we
> can make a good argument toward substantial (X.2.) difference and
> there's no conflict. If we're lucky then Black Stag, Electrum or Green
> Anchor are reading this thread and can offer some opinion or better
> facts on the subject.

There's a torch in the Zurich roll: Argent, a torch Or flaming gules, 
Fackelstein, Strip III back page 6.  I used the Zurich roll analysis 
that Gunnvor silfraharr put together.  It's in the Medieval Heraldry 
Archive:

http://www.s-gabriel.org/heraldry/german.shtml

UAW


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