[antir-heralds] cc - Fieldless, a rustre argent
Britt
tierna.britt at gmail.com
Thu Mar 29 15:30:07 PDT 2007
> "Fieldless, a rustre argent" appears to be clear but it seems too good
> to be true.
>
> Although it is combined with mascles in the Ordinary, there is a
> precedent (Francois la Flamme) which indicates they do not conflict:
> "A question was raised in commentary about heraldic difference between a
> rustre and a lozenge. A rustre is an uncommon charge in comparison with
> lozenges and mascles, but one which is described in late period.
> Hierosme de Bara's 1581 Le Blason Des Armoiries pp. 46-47 depicts the
> lozenge, the rustre, and the mascle. These are treated as distinct
> charges in the treatise. Thus, these three charges are considered
> significantly different under the provisions of difference in RfS X.4.e,
> which states, "Types of charges considered to be separate in period...
> will be considered different." "
Well, by that it certainly doesn't conflict with my badge. :)
Hmm, Griffin de Mohun (cite the LoAR and name of submitter with
precedents to they can be looked up in raw form, the compiled
precedents often edit and the raw form is often the purest version of
Laurel - and the only completely official one) is on conflict with
Vladisla Nikulich. I can see why, though. Could be the LoAR of 11/02
wasn't yet printed by the time of the 9/03 meeting.
This is why I say never tell someone their armory is clear. Tell them
it looks/appears clear, is clear to the best of your ability to check,
etc. When I was commenting in the CoA I kept Letters of Intent and had
the ability to mark them with Wreath meeting results. I occasionally
caught a conflict with something registered literally two months
previously, information no 'average' herald has to hand. You're never
sure it's free from conflict until the LoAR with its acceptance has
been released (yes, things can change after the Wreath meeting, and
sometimes do when better/new information comes up). And the Griffin
de Mohun/Vladisla Nikulich and Ellesbeth Donofrey/Teceangl Bach
registrations prove that sometimes not even then... :) However, once
registered, forever protected. And that is how it should be. The
Colleges do their best and that's all we ask of them.
That said, I found no conflicts for a fieldless argent rustre.
- Teceangl
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