[antir-heralds] one last request for help with my badge; CC please

Vanyev Betzina vanyev at opendoor.com
Wed May 23 18:28:01 EDT 2007


I have corrected the statement to mean my true purpose;  that a cross  
clechy is really a cross tipped in lozenges, and that those lozenges  
need not necessarily be ploye.  I have also re-posted the graphic.

An undocumented exemplar can be found amongst the extensive  
collection of free heraldic clipart here:

http://www.heraldicclipart.com/catalog/cross-143.html

I will be working Herald's point at Egil's myself, and will see you  
there.

On May 23, 2007, at 2:25 PM, Brian Russell wrote:

> Greetings Vanyev, Ciaran here.
>
> First, I am unable to assist with a conflict-check at this time due  
> to some
> vision difficulties I am experiencing at present.
> But I would like to ask what evidence you have to support the  
> assertion
> that crosses lozengy and crosses clechy are identical? Laurel and  
> Wreath
> will likely also want to see such evidence since there seems to  
> have been
> no precedent set with the registration of the cross lozengy to
> Barbara-Katherine of Kenilworth in July 1974 (though that isn’t very
> remarkable in itself as there have not been further registrations  
> as it
> appears to have been really a cross of four lozenges). While the  
> Ordinary
> database is no help (it has a few flaws), there is a record in the
> Armorial.
> In addition, looking at the arms of the RiomAan Catholic Diocese of  
> Raleigh
> at http://www.dioceseofraleigh.org/who/bishop/burbidge_coa.aspx,  
> you will
> see a great deal of difference between what you have drawn and the
> exemplar, which is what I would expect to see in a cross lozengy.
> Indeed, this drawing seems to blur the distinction between a cross  
> clechy
> and a cross barby.
> If you atre attending Egils, please come by consulting. I will be  
> there
> much of Sunday and likely Saturday.
>
> Ciaran
>



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