[antir-heralds] Pily (was: photo/style check please)
Britt
tierna.britt at gmail.com
Wed Nov 7 16:26:09 EST 2007
> See why I love this list so much? I'm always learning
> something new. So, if I have this correct, "piley" is
> parallel piles, and "piles in point" is when they come
> together at the points, yes?
Yes. And 'pily' is a field division while 'piles in point' are
charges on the field.
Multiple piles can also come down straight onto the field and not be
in point. The difference between multiple piles not in point and a
field division pily might well boil down to visual, if it's necessary
to make that distinction. For example the device of Raymond the Mild
as depicted on the An Tir roll of arms at
http://badger.cx/heraldry/roll/display.php?id=127 could as easily be
blazoned 'Or, three piles bendwise sable', though a correct depiction
of the blazon would have that sinister chief corner sable, too.
So that depiction is inaccurate, but shows why three or more
ordinaries on a field is heraldically interchangeable with a field
<ordinary>-y. Pallets/paly, bars/barry/ bendlets/bendy, scarpes/bendy
sinister.
[Paly sable and Or] Conflict with Aragon (important non-SCA arms) Or,
four palets gules. These arms are equivalent to Paly gules and Or (as
well as Paly Or and gules). "It was not unusual for barry or paly
fields in period to be drawn with an odd number of traits (which we'd
blazon as bars or palets); see, for example, the arms of Mouton
(Multon, Moleton) found both as Barry argent and gules and Argent,
three bars gules. (Dictionary of British Arms, Volume 1, pp 59, 88;
Foster, p.145) and the arms of von Rosenberg, whose Per fess field has
in base either three bends or bendy depending upon the artist's whim
(Siebmacher, p. 8; Neubecker and Rentzmann, p. 290). Even when the
distinction is worth blazoning, it's worth no difference" (LoAR
December 1997 p.8). Therefore there is only one CD for changing the
tincture of half the field. [Aethelwine Aethelredson, 02/02,
R-Calontir]
[Argent, two pallets gules overall a tree vert] This does not conflict
with the important non-SCA arms of O'Connor Don ... Argent, a tree
eradicated vert. Armory using three or more pallets is interchangeable
with paly on visual grounds and on grounds of historical heraldic
difference. Armory using two pallets is visually distinct from paly,
and evidence was neither presented nor found that paly and two pallets
should be considered artistic variants of each other in period. This
is therefore clear of O'Connor Don by RfS X.1 for adding a primary
charge group (the pallets). [Floris van Montfort, 05/02,
A-Drachenwald]
[Barry rayonny Or and gules] Conflict with ... Or, three bars wavy
gules. Three bars wavy is heraldically equivalent to barry wavy, so
there is only one CD for the change from wavy to rayonny. It also
conflicts with ... Gules, three bars Or. This is heraldically
equivalent to barry, so there is one CD for changing the line of the
barry from plain to rayonny, and no difference for swapping the order
of the tinctures on a multiply divided field like barry. [Trimaris,
Kingdom of, 12/03, R-Trimaris]
[Or, three bendlets sinister vert] This submission is heraldically
equivalent to Bendy sinister Or and vert. It thus conflicts with ...
Bendy sinister of four vert, argent, purpure and argent. There's no
difference between bendy sinister of four and bendy sinister of six.
The two pieces of armory share a tincture so X.4.a.ii.b does not
apply. This leaves one CD for changing the tincture of the field, but
that is all. [Gabriel Halte, 12/03, R-Drachenwald]
For more, check out any Laurel's compiled precedents under Field Division.
> Arqai
> (whos newly registered name does not contain a u)
Let's hear it for authenticity!
- Teceangl
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