[antir-heralds] Blazon help

chrisact at qwickconnect.net chrisact at qwickconnect.net
Fri Oct 12 18:51:54 EDT 2007


Owen ap Morgan wrote:
> Raoul Delaroche wrote:
>
>   
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/raouldelaroche/Heraldry/photo#5120518014655371986
>>
>> I believe the blazon for this would be:
>> Paly sable and or, on a chief argent a fleur-de-lis between two rowels sable.
>>
>> How did I do?
>>     
>
> I would specify /spur/ rowels, but otherwise fine.
>
>   
>> Anyone see any problems with registering this?
>>     
>
> Alas, yes.  Lachlann Munro, Oct. 2003 An Tir, "Per pale gules and sable, on
> a chief argent three mullets sable."
>
> Since the chief is charged, you only get one CD for the field.  Changing
> the type only of one tertiary in a group of three gets nothing.
>
> Make it three fleurs-de-lis instead of the mixed group and it might work.
>
> Owen ap Morgan
>   

Lord Owen has caught the one direct, absolute conflict. (Rats, beaten to 
the punch!  ;-) )

Here are a few other near-misses to the original proposal. All of these 
are clear both by their fields (X.4.a.i), and by X.4.j.ii, *if* the 
spur-rowel and fleur-de-lis are considered "substantially chang[ed] 
type[s]" of charges from the existent devices. (There are a number that 
are cleared by X.4.j.i, which I'll spare you from).
# Bella Caterina Malatesta
    * The following device associated with this name was registered in 
March of 2003 (via the West):
      Barry wavy azure and argent, on a chief argent three crosses 
crosslet fitchy sable.
# Juliana de la Rokele
    * The following device associated with this name was registered in 
December of 2002 (via Lochac):
      Gyronny Or and azure, on a chief argent three rook's wings sable.
# Moira MacDonald of Dunskahay
    * The following device associated with this name was registered in 
September of 2002 (via the East):
      Sable, on a chief argent a rose purpure between two roses sable.

Keep these in mind if you make minor changes to your proposal.

NB: Moira cannot be cleared by X.4.j.i, as less than half the group has 
changed tincture.

So, given that fleurs-de-lis are a substantially different type of 
charge from crosses crosslet fitchy, rooks' wings, and roses, Owen's 
suggestion would work, I believe.

Hope this has helped. :-)


~~Basil Dragonstrike

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