[antir-heralds] Blazon help

[Raoul Delaroche]

Thanks for the advice.  I will make some adjustments and try again.

Thanks again,

Raoul

On 10/12/07, chrisact at qwickconnect.net <chrisact at qwickconnect.net> wrote:
> Owen ap Morgan wrote:
> > Raoul Delaroche wrote:
> >
> >
> >> http://picasaweb.google.com/raouldelaroche/Heraldry/photo#5120518014655371986
> >>
> >> I believe the blazon for this would be:
> >> Paly sable and or, on a chief argent a fleur-de-lis between two rowels sable.
> >>
> >> How did I do?
> >>
> >
> > I would specify /spur/ rowels, but otherwise fine.
> >
> >
> >> Anyone see any problems with registering this?
> >>
> >
> > Alas, yes.  Lachlann Munro, Oct. 2003 An Tir, "Per pale gules and sable, on
> > a chief argent three mullets sable."
> >
> > Since the chief is charged, you only get one CD for the field.  Changing
> > the type only of one tertiary in a group of three gets nothing.
> >
> > Make it three fleurs-de-lis instead of the mixed group and it might work.
> >
> > Owen ap Morgan
> >
>
> Lord Owen has caught the one direct, absolute conflict. (Rats, beaten to
> the punch!  ;-) )
>
> Here are a few other near-misses to the original proposal. All of these
> are clear both by their fields (X.4.a.i), and by X.4.j.ii, *if* the
> spur-rowel and fleur-de-lis are considered "substantially chang[ed]
> type[s]" of charges from the existent devices. (There are a number that
> are cleared by X.4.j.i, which I'll spare you from).
> # Bella Caterina Malatesta
>    * The following device associated with this name was registered in
> March of 2003 (via the West):
>      Barry wavy azure and argent, on a chief argent three crosses
> crosslet fitchy sable.
> # Juliana de la Rokele
>    * The following device associated with this name was registered in
> December of 2002 (via Lochac):
>      Gyronny Or and azure, on a chief argent three rook's wings sable.
> # Moira MacDonald of Dunskahay
>    * The following device associated with this name was registered in
> September of 2002 (via the East):
>      Sable, on a chief argent a rose purpure between two roses sable.
>
> Keep these in mind if you make minor changes to your proposal.
>
> NB: Moira cannot be cleared by X.4.j.i, as less than half the group has
> changed tincture.
>
> So, given that fleurs-de-lis are a substantially different type of
> charge from crosses crosslet fitchy, rooks' wings, and roses, Owen's
> suggestion would work, I believe.
>
> Hope this has helped. :-)
>
>
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