[antir-heralds] style/CC: sword within wings

[Britt]

On Jan 28, 2008 10:54 AM, Ursula Georges <ursula at math.washington.edu> wrote:
> Teceangl wrote:
> > Sheesh.
> >
> > [Gules, a claymore, its hilt between the wings of a vol Or] The device
> > is in visual conflict with ... Gules, a winged sword Or. A comparison
> > of the emblazons showed that the visual resemblance was overwhelming.
> > [Ivor MacFergus, 09/99, R-Ansteorra]
> >
> > I think the proposal's arrangement clears if from a winged sword
> > because the charges are three in fess, definitely, and the wings
> > arranged so they don't look like it is intended for the sword to be
> > winged.  So that 'Gules, a winged sword Or' should be clear.
>
> Really?  I'd expect this to need a visual check.  Gules, a winged sword
> Or belongs to Count Brand Armand of Lancaster.  Here's his page on the
> Caidan chivalry website, with two different unofficial renderings of the
> device:
>
> http://chivalry.sca-caid.org/members/brand.php

If I had to speculate, I'd expect the one on his shield to be closest
to the official rendering. Paint's a lot better than clip art at
rendering stuff accurately.

If your client wants to go for it, I'd be honored to try to get
permission to conflict from Sir Brand if you don't want to tackle it.
Why take a chance when you can guarantee a sure thing/
(I'd still argue that it's clear, though.)

- Teceangl