[antir-heralds] conflict check assistance please

chrisact at qwickconnect.net chrisact at qwickconnect.net
Thu Jan 31 21:01:02 EST 2008


Lady Elizabeth Turner wrote:
> Good morning heralds :)
>
> I am assisting a submitter in trying to find (finally) a device that is clear of conflict and meets all our style guidelines. He has come to two potential devices, and is equally fond of them both. I am hoping that at least -one- of them is clear of conflict and he can resubmit.
>
> The two blazons are:
>
> Azure chaussé, a trident Or
>
> and
>
> Or goutty de sang, on a pile throughout azure a trident Or
>
> And just for my style reference, a pile throughout has corners of the triangle part indented from the top corners but -can- touch the bottom of the device, correct? I am pretty certain that is what the precedent on triangle shapes (per chevron inverted, chaussé, pile) says.
>   

I believe a pile throughout -must- touch the bottom of the device.
Precedent:
[/Azure, on a pile raguly Or a thistle proper, in base an estoile Or/] A 
pile should extend most if not all the way to the base; properly drawn, 
there would not be enough room for a charge ... to fit between the pile 
and the base. [Baldwin of Erebor, LoAR 6 December 1984, p.18] The 
precedent has continued to hold ever since. [*Sorcha ingen 
Chonchobhair*, 09/00, R-Meridies]
LoAR Date: September 1, 2000

Thus, since a pile not specified "throughout" must -nearly- touch the 
base, it seems to me a pile specified as "throughout" would have to do 
so. Actually, it's my impression *anything* labeled "throughout" has to 
touch some part of the edge of the device such a charge not labeled 
throughout would not usually touch.

I hope you followed that. :-/


I can find no conflict or near conflict not already covered by Teceangl.

~~Basil Dragonstrike

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