[antir-heralds] Interesting precedent on branch arm use

[las at lschweitz.com]

On Jul 12, 2008, at 10:18 PM, Teceangl <tierna.britt at gmail.com> wrote:

>> Interesting. I know that mundane heraldry says one may impale one's  
>> personal
>> arms with the arms belonging to certain offices. Does the SCA  
>> permit this?
>> If so, how frequently is it done?
>
> Ecclesiastical arms only in period, so no. To do so indicates,
> literally, that you're married to the other entity and in the case of
> bishops, that also implies sovereignty.  In the SCA we specifically
> forbid the combining of personal and territorial arms in any way for
> just that reason.

I seem to recall mayors and possibly guild heads impaling as well, and  
at least modernly, English heralds impale with their office in some  
displays. So not so much sovereignty per we.

Now all of these are uniquely held offices - Clarenceux would impale  
with that particular officer's arms, not with some generic herald's  
badge. I suspect that is why we don't impale with office badges in the  
SCA. Most aren't unique.

Zenobia Black Stag
>
>
> - Teceangl
> -- 
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