[antir-heralds] Interesting precedent on branch arm use
Teceangl
tierna.britt at gmail.com
Sat Jul 12 22:38:28 PDT 2008
On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 10:34 PM, las at lschweitz.com <las at lschweitz.com> wrote:
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> On Jul 12, 2008, at 10:18 PM, Teceangl <tierna.britt at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Interesting. I know that mundane heraldry says one may impale one's
>>> personal
>>> arms with the arms belonging to certain offices. Does the SCA permit
>>> this?
>>> If so, how frequently is it done?
>>
>> Ecclesiastical arms only in period, so no. To do so indicates,
>> literally, that you're married to the other entity and in the case of
>> bishops, that also implies sovereignty. In the SCA we specifically
>> forbid the combining of personal and territorial arms in any way for
>> just that reason.
>
> I seem to recall mayors and possibly guild heads impaling as well, and at
> least modernly, English heralds impale with their office in some displays.
> So not so much sovereignty per we.
>
> Now all of these are uniquely held offices - Clarenceux would impale with
> that particular officer's arms, not with some generic herald's badge. I
> suspect that is why we don't impale with office badges in the SCA. Most
> aren't unique.
IIRC (no guarantees), all the non-clerical examples were post-period.
Unless there was something Medici.
- Teceangl
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